Curse

SotiCoto · Jun 22, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55

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Originally Posted by Retribution X

That's because they have to rush for masters...

What is the point?
Since the Afflicted can't start spawning at the next area until Mhenlo and Togo get there anyway, it doesn't exactly help much to charge on ahead (unless you're a trapper or whatnot).

darkk wound · Jun 22, 2007, 11:57 AM // 11:57

he cant get masters on vizunah so hes asking for it to be removed lol !

onerabbit · Jun 22, 2007, 12:11 PM // 12:11

i love this mission! do it for fun alot of the time.

MMs and Massive AoE is soooo fun here!

majoho · Jun 22, 2007, 01:11 PM // 13:11

I have had mehnlo stuck one time, but that was pretty early on so it wasn't a big deal.

And with heroes I think it's one of the easiest missions in factions.

Sophitia Leafblade · Jun 22, 2007, 01:29 PM // 13:29

I think out of the numerious times ive done this mission ive only ever had it get bugged once! This mission is great for AoE and is a MM's dream come true

Painbringer · Jun 22, 2007, 03:19 PM // 15:19

I like the mission but recently there have been bugs for me. Last weekend I had to retry it 4 times.

1. After timer counted down the doors would not open to start mission
2. Menhlo got stuck in the environment and would not move.
3. Partner on other side abandoned me got to the last confrontation with my group alone but died.
4. Finally got a partner Necro on the other side we bashed the heck out of the game Menhlo got stuck above the stairs on the last big confrontation We were able to protect him though. Got Masters then I found out my partner was going for survivor as well.

Mehnlo goes heal crazy on Minions so he stops moving a lot. You have to keep an eye on him. This may be why he is getting stuck

Eternal Equinox · Jun 22, 2007, 03:26 PM // 15:26

minion masters/sf auto win come again.

Quaker · Jun 22, 2007, 06:24 PM // 18:24

Lol! I just finished Vizunah Square (foreign quarter) and got Masters. My team consisted of just me and my Heroes and henchies. The other team was entirely random henchies.

Vahn Roi · Jun 22, 2007, 06:28 PM // 18:28

Unless togo/mhenlo have started glitching again, I don't see a problem with this mission. In fact I have better luck with a hero/hench team on my side and a full henchmen team on the other side than I do with people and I almost never bring an MM hero.

Two words: Searing Flames.

Toutatis · Jun 22, 2007, 06:38 PM // 18:38

V Square is a bit of a hellhole at times, I'll admit, but it's still one of the most enjoyable missions in Factions IMO.

The trick is to not aim for masters and rush through. Slow down, take it easy, and focus. V Square does a pretty good job of making players panic and lose focus on strategy and survival; I view it as a training session in mental discipline

AlienFromBeyond · Jun 22, 2007, 06:51 PM // 18:51

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Originally Posted by Toutatis

The trick is to not aim for masters and rush through. Slow down, take it easy, and focus. V Square does a pretty good job of making players panic and lose focus on strategy and survival; I view it as a training session in mental discipline

Saying don't go for Master's is not very helpful, as some people do try and go for the Protector title you know.

OI-812 · Jun 22, 2007, 06:57 PM // 18:57

I've been fortunate enough to never have a problem with Togo and Mhenlo becoming stuck. Vizunah Square IMO is an INCREDIBLY fun mission, and becomes rather funny when your team has a MM and a spirit-spamming rit, and the other team has those as well O.o If your computer can handle the load, it's insane

WinterSnowblind · Jun 22, 2007, 07:32 PM // 19:32

I didn't like Factions because a lot of the missions like this. They don't require any sort of strategy, but instead just throw thousands of enemies at you and tell you to fight them off. But that's a problem with all of Factions, and personally I've never had any problems with this particular mission, I went through it just yesterday with my brother who only started playing the game, and everything went fine.

The Arborstone mission is really the only one that bothers me. We tried that twice today, and both times Danika runs it right at the end, gets caught between all the monsters and dies.. Geez, I don't mind failing the mission because I screwed up, but when the A.I. causes you to fail an escort mission, it's just painful.

majoho · Jun 22, 2007, 08:21 PM // 20:21

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Originally Posted by AlienFromBeyond

Saying don't go for Master's is not very helpful, as some people do try and go for the Protector title you know.

I think he means don't rush because it doesn't help.

The only way to get masters is killing the waves as quick as possible, charging between the places the waves occur won't help anything since you'll just screw up the NPC's

I just did it again with my Paragon and h/h and on the other team there was a Rit (level 13) and henches. We got easily got masters without even trying so it's very well possible to do it, provided you do it right.

countesscorpula · Jun 22, 2007, 09:25 PM // 21:25

I can verify that togo does indeed get stuck. I might even have a screen shot somewhere. I've also seen Dankia get stuck in Arborstone: We were at the end, and killed everything in the room. We had 3 minutes to sapre for masters, and the cow would not move no matter how much you prodded/pleaded/pestered her. I sent the screen shots in to A-Net, but haven't seen any dev updates mentioning a fix.

Age · Jun 22, 2007, 10:25 PM // 22:25

I wouldn't say it needs deleting but maybe skipping it would be nice like all mission in Factions.Factions is over a year old there should be a way for those who beat it with one char for eg. if you are there just to cap some elites who wants to do the missions agian for 2 or 3 elites.

When it comes to the mission I never see Mhenlo or Togo get stuck but they die easy in them.I can't not believe a Monk and Rit can't heal themselves up.When I Monked that mission I had to do it for Mhenlo.I found under the star a blast to Monk in.

Tactical-Dillusions · Jun 22, 2007, 10:29 PM // 22:29

Vizunah is like THK. People either like it or loathe it.
I still haven't decided where i stand on it but the OP does bring up some good points and the mission does need fixing.

Just two days ago when i last did it, Togo and Mhenlo decided to stop for a permanent rest and the group had to resign.

If a revamp was voted for, i'd suggest a hold-out style mission, like the whole mission had been rolled into one spot that has to be defended.

Also give us a Vizunah explorable too, that would be nice, so no part is wasted.

Across The Battle · Jun 22, 2007, 10:36 PM // 22:36

I hate this mission too, but I dont think it should be deleted. I think the bugs should be fixed. Maybe have some better ai on the other side if they dont enter. But keep the mission.

Rod Adams · Jun 22, 2007, 11:00 PM // 23:00

Only issue is the bugs w/ Togo/Mhenlo getting stuck.

I've done this with AoE eles, with dual MMs, and heck, once I even did it in a PuG with 5 Wa/Mo's, 1 monk, 1 restro rit, and a mesmer.....

Only failures are when the team splits for whatever silly reason, or the healers forget that togo and mhenlo are idiots.

B E A S T · Jun 22, 2007, 11:13 PM // 23:13

Vizunah for me was one of the easiest missions in factions.

I didnt notice any bugs while doing the mission either.